Showing posts with label student. Show all posts
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Tuesday, October 28, 2014

#38 Use good debt wisely, get rid of bad debt completely.



Most people have some form of debt.  Credit card debt, student debt, mortgage debt, car loan, family loans, investment loans, payday loans, rotating lines of credit, and consolidation loans are probably the most common types of debt.  People typically use debt to buy something when they don't have the money for it at that given moment in time.  We as a society don't often save up for things before we buy them, but rather buy them and then pay back the loan over time... that's just the way most people do it these days, particularly younger people just starting out who have no savings to begin with.  The problem with debt is that if taken on for the wrong reasons, or if handled irresponsibly, it can make your life more difficult rather than easier.

But not all debt is bad.  We are quite comfortable taking on large amounts of debt but we only take on what we consider to be "good debt" and that brings us to defining good debt vs bad debt.  We use a fairly simple definition but it has some room for subjectivity.  Good Debt results in a better longer-term fiscal situation for our family as a whole.  Bad Debt results in a worse fiscal situation.

Another way of looking at it would be asking the question:  Does the cost of paying the interest plus the principle make up for it FINANCIALLY in the long run?

Here are my thoughts on what are good types of debt and what are bad.

Credit Card Debt - Bad Debt.  Interest rates are too high and most people use credit cards to buy things that depreciate over time.  If you don't pay your credit card off quickly, the interest will eat up a lot of your money.

Student Debt - Generally Good.  Assuming you are using the the associated education to make more money than you would without the education, then yes Student Debt can be Good.  Once you're done your education, I advise to pay off student debt quickly.  I would however challenge people taking "basket weaving" classes whether those types of diplomas/degrees are worthwhile for the money and interest that they are required to pay back, often for years and years. 

Mortgage Debt - Generally Good Debt.  It allows you to choose where you live and how long you live there by owning property.  Its debatable whether a home is an investment, but the benefit of being in control of where you live and knowing that rent wont be going up every year can help you budget your money more easily.

Family Loans - Generally Bad Debt.  Owing a family member may make sense in some cases, but I'm not a fan of owing family simply because its awkward and usually one side feels they're not getting the treatment they'd like. 

Investment Loans - Good Debt.  If you can make more money on the investment than you are paying for in interest costs, this is definitely good debt in my books.  We regularly use investment loans as part of our investment portfolio.

PayDay Loans - Definitely Bad Debt.  Essentially legal loan sharking. 

Rotating Lines of Credit - Depends on the usage, but I would bet most people are using it for consumer spending.  If you use it for investing purposes, then a Line of Credit can be good debt.

Car Loan - Bad Debt.  New Cars depreciate like crazy the first few years.  Buying a car may be a necessity, but we prefer to pay off car loans very quickly or don't have a loan at all.

Consolidation Loans - Bad Debt.  Usually the lesser of the evils of loans in that consolidation loans usually have lower interest rates than other high interest loans such as credit cards or some car loans. The downside is that this often still consumer debt, just at a different rate.  Pay it off.

Kim and I both had student loans in the 10s of thousands of dollars, which we paid off within a few years once I started working. At present, we have an investment loan and we will be buying a house next Spring which will mean we will have a mortgage again.   Both of these loan-types will help better our financial situation and so we are quite comfortable having them and generally not in a hurry to pay them down.  We have no other types of debt at the moment and we intend to keep it that way.  Whenever we've had other types of debt, we've work very hard to pay it down as soon as possible.  By only having debt that helps our financial situation and doesn't hurt it, it means we don't fuss over our debt as much as other people, and we know that by paying the debt off, we aren't merely pouring our money down the drain, or lining the pockets of others.  We obviously need to make sure that the amount of good debt we have remains at a manageable level that we can be expected to be able to cover with our monthly income.  That is where budgeting comes in.  

Friday, February 15, 2013

Rule #25 Live like a student as long as you can.

"The essentials of life are cheap. Only the luxuries are expensive." - Ron Muhlenkamp

Remember when you were a student at college or university? Remember how much fun it was and yet how broke you were? You didn't have a luxurious place to live in, or a car, and you walked to everything, or maybe skateboarded everywhere?  The TV you had was the TV the previous tenants left behind because it was too bloody heavy to move... you know.. the Radiation King with the wooden case, and you certainly couldn't afford cable TV.  You stayed in and hung out with friends, choosing potlucks instead of going to fancy restaurants.  You made coffee at home, and brought sandwiches for lunch instead of buying it.  Cheap Poutine and Pitcher of Beer night at the local pub was the best night of the week because you and your friends could nurse your drink and wax poetic all night long at discount prices.  Life was simple.  You had few financial liabilities and it was fun living this way.



But then something happened.  There was this temptation that with a new career must also come a car, new furniture, fancy clothes, an expensive watch or phone, a big flat-screen TV,  and instead of frequenting the local watering hole, you feel compelled to hang out in the more expensive places with the foreign or micro-brews on tap instead of the cheap domestics.   Your big adult paycheque deserved a big adult lifestyle.   That big TV meant a cable-TV plan, and high-speed internet and a phone with a big data-plan.  Whoa! This is starting to sound expensive.

I always tell young people I meet to resist this temptation as much as possible, for as long as possible.  It is extremely difficult to save, pay down debt, and generally get ahead if you jump into a higher standard of living without the financial base to make it happen first, and that is just what many recent grads do.  Once people get used to a high-status high-consumption lifestyle, it is often very difficult for people to reign in that spending if needed, so the longer you can prolong your student lifestyle, the better.  I can not emphasize enough how much financial sacrifice plays in to financial well-being and resisting many of these adult lifestyle trappings can be a boon to your bottom line and mental well-being.  In my opinion, spending money on luxuries in life such as cars, expensive clothes, and expensive monthly liabilities such as Cable-TV should only be done once the basics are covered such as eliminating bad debt and having some savings.  Another thing I've noticed is that people with high standards of lifestyle without a financial base often worry a lot about maintaining that lifestyle...  and I generally like to sleep at night, so a simple carefree lifestyle suits me just fine.

When I was in grad school, we lived just like in the first paragraph.  My wife and I lived in a very modest apartment, we didn't own a car, and we didn't have have a TV let alone cable TV.   When I got my first employment position as a technical professional, there was a temptation to buy all the fancy things people come to expect with such a position.  But we resisted.  We did however buy a house after  I had been working for 3 months only because we were going to be evicted from our apartment due to a coming renovation.  While we did own a house, it would be another 4 years before we would buy a car.  It wasn't that we couldn't arrange for a car-loan to get one, it was that cars are money pits, and we weren't interested in digging new financial holes while we were trying to pay off our student loans.

With two adult salaries, but without many of the liabilities many adults take on, we were able to slay both our student loans ($58 thousand worth) in just over 3 years, save up enough to pay for a used car four years after I started working, begin to max out our RRSPs, and give to worthwhile charities.  We were essentially saving 50% of our take home pay.... By comparison to many in our field and experience level, our standard of living was modest, but we were very happy because we maintained that interactive social face-to-face lifestyle by continuing pot-luck get-togethers and Cheap Beer and Poutine nights.  We still lived with "student" quality furniture because it still met our needs.  It was still functional, though certainly not fashionable.  We only bought stuff out of necessity, not because of some feeling or self-imposed obligation around keeping up with others.    We never focused on what status items we were missing out on, but rather focused on relationships and building a solid financial base to give us more flexibility and freedom as we got older.  Once the essentials of living have been taken care of, then we focus on adding the luxuries.

At our current stage in life, which is late-thirties with young kids, we have adopted many of the liabilities that come with adulthood: A nice car, high-speed internet, club memberships etc, but we only added these lifestyle choices when we could afford them.  To this day we still walk or bike everywhere we can, we do not have Cable-TV, dont frequent fancy restaurants more than once a year, and Cheap Beer and Poutine are still our favourite nights out.